Posts Tagged ‘collecting’

Exploring the eBay Effect

Saturday, February 7th, 2009

eBay LogoSo I’ve had this idea for an article for some time regarding the effect of eBay on the collectibles marketplace, music memorabilia in particular. Thinking there were some main points I wanted to make, it ought to be fairly simple yet interesting to others as I have been selling on eBay for over 10 years (view my eBay listings) and began buying, selling and trading in the pre-web days. As i got into it, it became clear just how vast the subject truly is. See The eBay Effect.

I’m not done with the subject, and plan to break it down further. If you have some thoughts ideas, opinions, let me please use the comments section to let me know.

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The Scourge of the Poster World

Thursday, January 22nd, 2009

There it was sitting in my in box:

I found this and I don’t know if its an original or a reprint, can you tell me what it might be worth? -Larry

There are 1000's of these bootleg concert poster floating around, hundreds of different designs with the same cheesy layout and mismatched stolen photos.

There are 1000's of these bootleg concert poster floating around, hundreds of different designs with the same cheesy layout and mismatched stolen photos.

I do free memorabilia appraisals through my site as a service to collectors and just regular folks. I would say one in four appraisal requests I get are for one of hundreds of versions of these bootleg posters. Some guy is making his living printing up these fake posters and selling them to every head shop and record shop in the country, probably overseas as well. His wholesale price is only a buck or two each and so they are literally everywhere.

Most measure 14×22 and are printed on card stock.  They feature everyone from Elvis Presely to Bruce Springsteen, I’ve even seen some for the Worlds Series and other famous sporting events. The guy obviously does not do his research. The example at left shows an image of the Dead from 1966 or 1967. The concert date says 1972. Another dead give-away is that it is quite rare for an original concert poster to state a year, except maybe in the small printing of credit line. When you think about it, if a poster was put out to advertise a concert, the person looking at the poster at the time of the event most likely knows the year, so it’s rare to actually see it printed.

In this case the photo is by Herb Ritts, who is obviously not being paid for its use. The poor layout degrades it’s use. Obviously the printer and seller are also infringing on the copyright and trademarks of the Grateful Dead and the Jefferson Airplane as well, by producing unauthorized merchadise with ther names and likeness. 

So, Larry, it’s not really a reprint as there was never an original that looked anything like this, the date is made up, the photo is stolen, and the bands are ripped off. Anyone with more info on the guy who prints/sells these please post in the comments section. I’ll try to update the post if I get more info.

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Weighing in on Wolfgangs Vault

Saturday, January 10th, 2009

It was the buzz of the concert poster and music memorabilia world for it’s first few years. In 2003, Minnestota millionaire Bill Sagan purchased the archives of Bill Graham Presents, including copywrites, for over $5,000,000. What ensued over the next few years was a heavy handed interpretation of those copywrites, which gave Sagans newfounded company, Wofgangs Vault, a pretty bad name among dealers and collectors and even musicians who had been in the business for many, many years. There were and still are a number of lawsuits surrounding this company.

The main effect I felt in regards to Wolfgangs was that within that same year they bought out two of my colleagues, Legends Concert Posters out of Portland Oregon and New York City’s Psychedelic Solution. I had been trading, purchasing, and selling to these businesses while building my archives and website. It was a little unsettling to have them both gobbled up withing such a short time span. At the same time, I’m happy for Jacaeber Kastor of Psychedelic Solutions. Jacaeber had worked for many years, starting with nothing, and built his collections and business from what I felt was a true love and respect for material itself. I understand he was paid well for his efforts, and so in that way, Wolfgangs did him a service that is to be respected: they paid him for his efforts. I’m not sure how Dave Cutter did with Legends though I think some of Wolfgangs interest may have been in his URL, www.concertposters.com. They have also bought out numerous other stashes including the archives of  Hawaii’s Tom Moffat Productions.

I’m always trying to look for the positives in any situation and there are quite a few in this case. 

From an archivists point a view, it’s great to have the Bill Graham Presents archives searchable via Wolgangs website. On ConcertPosterArt.com, I list my collection items as well as items which are currently for sale. While those looking just to purchase may find it somewhat of a hinderance, the music researchers and biographers have really appreciated it and found the information useful. Currently, Wolfgangs is only listing items it has for sale, but it’s still a massive collection to browse.  They also have some detailed printing information and specifications, which now matches up with the reserach of one of my mentors and idols, Eric King, author of the Collectors Guide to Psychedelic Rock Posters.

Another positive is that there is once again a “Big House” in the concert poster world, which really I think sets an air of importance to the field and the memorabilia itself. It says something about a segment of the collecting world when someone drops 5 million.

There has been alot of huff about Wolfgangs Vault’s pricing, which is really no ones business thier own.  Though I’ve never purchased from them, I find their pricing to be like most collectibles/antiquities businesses I deal with, which is to say that there are some great deals in there, you just have to know what they are when you see them. While their pricing structure definately represents the high end of the spectrum, that position has to be held by someone. From my point of view, at least they aren’t undervaluing the material.

All in all, it is what it is…my only question is: Where’s my buyout offer?

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A Good Find

Monday, January 5th, 2009
We all have our little haunts. I go into pretty much every antique mall, shop, record store…I’m sure I’ve been to thousands over the years in 48 states and a few countries. I love to browse, just educating myself on what’s out there in the collectibles world.  I’m mainly a collector of concert posters and they’re pretty tough to come by offline these days, but I just love looking at old stuff. 
A find that blew my mind. I've always really dug the album and the bootlegs from The Dylan and The Dead tour. I especially like the "Slow Train Comin with the heavy Brent Mydland vocal.

A find that blew my mind. I've always really dug the album and the bootlegs from The Dylan and The Dead tour. I especially like the "Slow Train Comin" with the heavy Brent Mydland vocal.

So, I was doing just that, walking the isles of one of my favorite spots here in Vermont. It’s an antique mall, which can often be terrible collections of cast-offs, but this one is always fun, lots of pop culture material and always some new stuff. Sometimes I’ll find some vinyl for my record shop. I noticed at one booth an East Bay poster for sixties side-liners Stoneground by Randy Tuten. Nothing I want, but interesting that it’s there. After more perusing I come across a wall downstairs with some framed Fillmore handbills and cards. Also some rare rimages, including a Grateful Dead Mouse and Kelley “memorial” handbill, but all the rarer stuff was pirate printings and/or bootlegs. And then there it is: a 1988 Dylan and the Dead flyer from Autzen Stadium in Eugene Oregon. I immediately take it off the wall in it’s frame an take a closer look, and sure enough, it’s the real thing.

Those of you who are familiar with my website and collections know I have the most extensive collection or Northwest telephone pole posters form 1980 to present on the planet. And I’m a Deadhead (though equally into punk, country, jazz and just about everything else). On top of that, it’s size is 8.5 x11. I love the 8.5 x 11 flyers because they fit so nicely into a regular binder with archival sleeves making them easy to store, flip through, and when your dealing with collection of my magnitude, simply find.

I was and still am thrilled to have come across it the way I did. Like it was waiting for me. Turns out a former Grateful Dead roadie lives in the area and was parting with some goodies, reminding me I’m on the right path.

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